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Byrds with John Guerin - 3 previously unseen pictures
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raoul



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Byrds with John Guerin - 3 previously unseen pictures Reply with quote

...sent to Byrds Flyght by David Meinzer...

Many thanks to him

http://users.skynet.be/byrdsfollower/byrdswithguerin.htm
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Brian



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Raoul!
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Savalas



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool! Thanks fellas. Roger looks cool in his Byrds shirt..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see a closer pic Clarence.....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting, but the gigs after Parsons left were train wrecks. He has so key in the tightness of the whole thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, Guerin was a superb player but Gene latched into the overall Byrds sound like no one else. The dynamic he had with Skip and Clarence is noticably lost with John Guerins playing.
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Matt



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gene left some LARGE shoes to fill thats for sure. My guess is that his years as a studio ace really prepared him to cover the Byrds catalog. Which covered a LOT of different things stylistically.

He was really great at the swinging country style "Sweethearts". He could also hold his own with just about any rock style drummer of the day as well, imo.

Gene is definitely one drummer I think it would be a blast to jam with. His sense of timing and the power he brought in those live Byrds boots is impressive.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree....Gene was good. And I bet he has some stories to tell. He and Clarence were a team when playing. I remember watching Gene watch Clarence when they were playing. Wasn't sure why then but now I think I know.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My forever memory of Clarence and Gene was listening to them on guitar and banjo, respectively, jamming in the Green Room before gigs. Nothing they played together was on the set list, but the musical brotherhood was readily apparent.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guerin was an absolute monster drummer...but his jazz-tinged chops never really fit the Byrds all that well IMO. I saw him in several on the bands where he had a groove that wouldn't quit, but somehow he never seemed to hook into Skip's busy (but superb) bass playing - and if the bass and drummer don't get locked together, it DOES sound like a train wreck. Skip and Gene played off each other very well, and you can hear how intuitive they were. Boots of the Byrds with Guerin show he sounded rushed and not able to quite "get" Clarence and Skip's extremely non-traditional rock styles.

In Hot Burritos Chris Hillman calls Gene a "terrible drummer" - but he also disses Sneaky and others. Not the best judge of musical talent if you ask me, and sounds more bitter than anything else. Gene was by far the best Drummer the Byrds ever had (the first time I heard the ...I think...Sweden boot with the Burritos, ending with everyone on stage that has a "drum battle" between Gene and Michael Clark is almost sad/funny; Clark is so horribly overmatched it's embarrassing. Bless his soul, he DID come up with a few good parts here and there - but he HAD to be one of the worst drummers in the history of major rock bands.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gene's great of course, but Clarke was good too. One of my top faves. If you notice, he keeps a good back beat that was perfect for the first generation Byrds.


Crank this up, it's hypnotically cool. ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8gBysv5gYQ


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raoul



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Meinzer sent us two more previously unseen pictures of The Byrds.

One of them features Clarence playing the mandolin.

http://users.skynet.be/byrdsfollower/byrdswithguerin.htm
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx Raoul !!
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raoul



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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now David sent Byrds Flyght yet another picture of Clarence with mandolin, along with a scan of the entrance ticket for the Byrds concert.

http://users.skynet.be/byrdsfollower/byrdswithguerin.htm
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Savalas



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great pictures Raoul, thanks for sharing the link.
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